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advanced yoga practitioners
20-08-2013, 11:25 AM (This post was last modified: 20-08-2013 05:39 PM by admin 2.)
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advanced yoga practitioners
I read somewhere that you can define someone with an advanced yoga practice if they can preform correctly and daily 30 minutes of Shirshasana (headstand) and 30 minutes of Padmasana (lotus pose).
I did for a long period 15 minutes daily of Shirshasana and indeed the effects were wonderful. i also did for a short period of 2 weeks 1 hour a day of shirshasana but this not uninterrupted, and only for 2 weeks. however, in that period i noticed i could follow the thoughts back to their source and they would turn on themselves and stop - the subconscious unfolding in-front of me.
I never practiced padmasana long on a daily basis.
Can someone who has done this daily practice of 30 min shirshasana and 30 minutes padmasana (or something like that) share what their results where?

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22-08-2013, 03:10 AM (This post was last modified: 23-08-2013 07:14 PM by bhairava.)
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(20-08-2013 11:25 AM)yogi7 Wrote:  I read somewhere that you can define someone with an advanced yoga practice if they can preform correctly and daily 30 minutes of Shirshasana (headstand) and 30 minutes of Padmasana (lotus pose).
I did for a long period 15 minutes daily of Shirshasana and indeed the effects were wonderful. i also did for a short period of 2 weeks 1 hour a day of shirshasana but this not uninterrupted, and only for 2 weeks. however, in that period i noticed i could follow the thoughts back to their source and they would turn on themselves and stop - the subconscious unfolding in-front of me.
I never practiced padmasana long on a daily basis.
Can someone who has done this daily practice of 30 min shirshasana and 30 minutes padmasana (or something like that) share what their results where?

In my opinion an advanced yoga practitioner is a practitioner of yoga that is able to get into any beneficial state at will. This mens that irrespective to the external conditions the advanced practitioner will be able to hold a chosen positive attitude, with other words to maintain the resonance phenomenon with the source of energies that correspond to the chosen positive state.
From the experience with yoga practice i can say that in the beginning of the practice different techniques will create wonderful states. But these states will have a time remanence that is quite short. In order to have again the same state one need to do again the same yoga technique. Due to the objectivity of the yoga practice (and this is one of its major wonderful characteristics) it is possible to repeat an inner experience when repeating the yoga technique that created the state in the first place.
In time, the remanence of the wonderful state that appears with the yoga technique is increasing. This is in a way the sign of the process of advancing on the path of yoga. The advancement on the yoga path will be measured in the extent the yogi will assimilate the states that result from the techniques and will become able to use less techniques and more the power of awareness in order to obtain the same effects.
When practicing little, the subtle system of the practitioner will not have time to “reshape” in order to become able to take a certain attitude just by a simple decision, still needing the help of the yoga technique.
For example if one is practicing nauly kriya will feel an intense burst of willpower even few hours after ending the practice. This is because nauly kriya activates the third chakra, manipura or the willpower ckakra. After a while of intense daily practice of this technique the increased feeling of willpower will last even longer, the activation of manipura chakra will last longer. Moreover the yogi will begin to be able to take an attitude of willpower without needing the previous practice of nauly kriya, just by focusing the attention toward manipura chakra and increasing the resonance phenomenon with the universal source of energy corresponding with the manifestation of willpower in the universe.
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04-09-2013, 06:27 AM
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Does this mean that when one wants to achieve high, long-lasting states through yoga practice the actual technique you choose is not so important, what is more important is the repetition of that particular technique?
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04-09-2013, 01:13 PM
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(04-09-2013 06:27 AM)Terra Wrote:  Does this mean that when one wants to achieve high, long-lasting states through yoga practice the actual technique you choose is not so important, what is more important is the repetition of that particular technique?

It matters the technique you use - as it needs to fit to the goal that you have set for yourself, and to also fit with your structure and needs.
It matters also the way you practice the technique - as a technique which is practiced wrong or with a disharmonious attitude will not have the same effects.
and yes, then it matters very much that this technique will be repeated again and again, until the effects become very deep and long lasting - eventually becoming the new natural state of our being.
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05-09-2013, 01:59 PM
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(04-09-2013 01:13 PM)admin 2 Wrote:  
(04-09-2013 06:27 AM)Terra Wrote:  Does this mean that when one wants to achieve high, long-lasting states through yoga practice the actual technique you choose is not so important, what is more important is the repetition of that particular technique?

It matters the technique you use - as it needs to fit to the goal that you have set for yourself, and to also fit with your structure and needs.
It matters also the way you practice the technique - as a technique which is practiced wrong or with a disharmonious attitude will not have the same effects.
and yes, then it matters very much that this technique will be repeated again and again, until the effects become very deep and long lasting - eventually becoming the new natural state of our being.

Thank you. I have a further question: say you want to increase your willpower and in order to do this you have to have the goal, the right attitude and then to practice repeatedly, but in order to be able to practice something repeatedly one needs willpower and if that is what is lacking then how would we be able to implement this crucial aspect of repetition. As I see it repetition means practicing often, at least daily and for many people this is difficult and especially with the temptations of modern life daily yoga practice can be a real challenge - so how do we make real progress in such a situation? Do we just have to accept it will be a slow and arduous process?
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05-09-2013, 05:35 PM
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@ terra
From my experience with this kind of situations, there are two ways one can surpass this apparent paradox.
One way is to use to maximum benefits what you have, thus generating a surplus. Then you take the surplus and efficiently use it into a new action that will be stronger and will generate a bigger surplus. In this case (talking about the willpower) with the little you have you do some of the exercises. But this will increase the occult resonance with the energy of willpower and you will accumulate more willpower within your structure. This will generate an increased capacity to act and to repeat the same exercise even better. The secret here is to "invest" all the surplus in order to create this phenomenon of amplification or growth. Many times people are wasting the increased feeling of willpower generated by a little practice on Manipura chakra for other actions that now seem more available since there is more power in their system. Then it seems that there is never a possibility to grow in something since what you need for that growth is exactly what you are missing initially. Proceeding gradually one can amplify any state or quality from very weak to extremely strong.
The second aspect that i see as very important is the value of the initiation received from a person that is already an initiate in that respective yoga technique. By the mysterious process of initiation, the initiator will awaken (sometimes for the first time ever in that person) the focus point of resonance with the specific corresponding energy. Yet this activation by initiation is a temporary one. Thus by initiation one can start to be able for a while to manifest strong energies at the level of Manipura chakra, having an increased willpower. After a while, if that seed of resonance that is implemented by initiation is not supported in any way by the actions and thoughts entertained by the one that received the initiation, then the initiation will fade away and the individual will fall back on the initial capacity. From this perspective INITIATION is the mysterious process of getting something started even if in the beginning you were not capable to start by yourself.
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